Monday, February 02, 2009

Conceptually Diligent: Web 5.0 Is Repackaging Hello


Finally a sane voice. Who is Mike? Hello Mike. (from the NY Tech MeetUp mailing list discussion)

Web 5.0 - Wikipedia

Defining Web 4.0
Web 5.0: Face Time
A Web 3.0 Manifesto

Message 13: Michael Mellinger

Web 4.0 isn't on wikipedia yet. Nice write up on 3.0, which isn't here yet. Start the wikipedia article, blog about it or invent it. There really isn't much value unless you do the latter.

-Mike
Sent from my iPhone

Message 12: Andy Badera

Attacking me for my primary physical location is about as insightful and effective as your laughable, pitiable effort at self-promotion by discussing a topic that is not only cliche, but even so, seems also beyond your ability to offer value in discussing.

Message 11: Paramendra Bhagat



Andy. I just checked. You are in Albany. No wonder you don't get the Silicon City vision. You don't "get" the city.
http://technbiz.blogspot.com/2009/01/mitch-kapor-now-following-me-on-twitter.html

Message 10: Paramendra Bhagat

In your original post it is DNFFT.

Message 9: John Campbell

http://letmegooglethatforyou.com/?q=DNFFT

Message 8 : Paramendra Bhagat

What do you mean by DNFTT?

Message 7: John Campbell

DNFTT

Message 6: Andy Badera

I don't subscribe to people posting meaningless self-promotional non-insightful blogspam without bringing some sort of value -- did that really need to be spelled out for you? Web n.0 has been beaten to a bloody pulp, and your piece offers nothing new in that arena. Really, it's not even that good at covering the same ground covered many times before.

Message 5: Paramendra Bhagat

You mean other than that 90% of the traffic at this discussion forum is less conceptually meaningless?

Instead getting into name calling, why don't you try a different tack? You could say you don't subscribe to the Web 2.0 terminology, or that you do, but you don't see why anyone would build on it, as in thereis no room for Web 3.0 and beyond concepts, or that you see room for all that but you think my classification is off the mark, and you could try and say why.

Then we are talking. Right now we are not.

Message 4: Andy Badera

There's nothing new or original or insightful here, so why are you posting it?

Message 3: Paramendra Bhagat

Andy. My Web 1.0, Web 2.0, Web 3.0, Web 4.0, Web 5.0 classification sounds vague, nebulous, amorphous, pie in the sky, abstract, cloudy to you. To me it feels rather concrete. Let me ask you something. There are people who think even the term Web 2.0 is pie in the sky. There is a web, and that is all. There is no 2.0. How do you feel about that? Is Web 2.0 a term you use? Or what? And if Web 2.0 is real to you, what is your disagreement with Web 5.0, for example.

I feel like there is a comprehensivity to my classification that makes it rather poetic.

Message 2: Andy Badera

Another nebulous Web n.0 piece, fantastic. Was there something of particular value here you were trying to share with us, or is this just a link to another run-of-the-mill pie-in-the-sky pointless Web n.0 enumeration piece?

Message 1: Paramendra Bhagat

Defining Web 4.0
http://technbiz.blogspot.com/2009/01/defining-web-40.html








"One million seconds comes out to be about 11½ days. A billion seconds is 32 years. And a trillion seconds is 32,000 years. I like to say that I have a pretty good idea what I'll be doing a million seconds from now, no idea what I'll be doing a billion seconds from now, and an excellent idea of what I'll be doing a trillion seconds from now."


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Onto Digital Publishing





I don't know a whole lot about publishing but I have an Internet enthusiast's feel for some of what is going on. There is a tectonic shift underway.
"......so I'm interested in your thougts on the matter. I'm a magazine publisher, and we're transitioning from print into digital media...so I'm trying to figure it all out...like everybody else in print and TV....."
That is such a huge topic. A paradigm shift is under way. And there will be winners and there will be losers. The winners will be those who choose to ride the wave. The losers will be those who stay stubborn and get washed away.

Murdoch said while buying the WSJ, people don't want to pay. As in, he was thinking of turning the WSJ into something entirely ad supported, give everything out for free. No subscription, nothing. Print will not go away completely, and subscriptions will not go away completely, but that top dog just might have a point.

(1) Focus like crazy on serving ads. Have a good ad team. Gawker Media asked for and got premium prices. They did not exactly do AdSense.
(2) Your site should be a multi media experience.
(3) There should be the latest web functionalities. Which these days seems to mean the web experience should feel social.
(4) Remember, you are serving content, but you are also building community. But never forget content, your number one offering.
(5) Keep an open mind. Change should be not a decision for today, it should be a lifestyle, or rather, workstyle.
"I felt like I was previewing the future of media." (on the CNN Facebook collaboration for January 20)
Case in study. Plum. Comes out once a year. Has a niche market that I am going to call prime real estate, beachfront property. Some of what might apply to Plum would also apply to the New York Times. When the New York Times goes completely online, it gets read globally. Its readership expands like huge. But the revenue per reader is less than it was with print circulation. You lower the price and you make money on volume. Check out the 99 cent pizza place on 41st and Ninth.

There are pregnant women above 35 in America. Well, they also exist in Europe, and Japan, and India, and elsewhere. In going digital a media property like Plum could go global with no additional cost in terms of content creation. And if you manage to build community, many users create content for you for free.

You are looking at becoming a global brand name, and a media powerhouse. From coming out once a year, it becomes a web destination that people visit every day. It already has a great ad base, it looks like.

What makes Plum cutting edge is it has a very sharply defined niche, this collection of rich women, to put it mildly. So Plum is digital edge cutting edge. The new medium is all about niches. And the niche you find can be global. Plum got there in terms of concept before it got there in terms of technology.




http://upendra.shardanand.com My friend Upendra seems to be doing some cutting edge, insane quality work, right at the edge.
Daylife Select a game-changer for online publishing: the mind-bending Daylife Select. ...... gorgeous new pages of constantly updating content ...... lets publishers launch instant content portals containing thousands or millions of pages, with stories, topics, photo galleries, search (much like you see on our showcase, daylife.com), all in their own brand, voice, look, and feel. And without developer resources. It all happens through a simple point-and-click interface, not unlike launching a social network on Ning or a blog on WordPress. ........ through our integration tools, it can blend seamlessly with (or around) your existing property. ...... a content cloud computer ...... not only Daylife-collected content, but a huge range social media sources ...... videos from YouTube, photos from Flickr, topical streams from Twitter, search results from Yahoo!, comments from Disqus, and entries from Wikipedia. ....... ANY Google Gadget. .... not only do you have millions of pages – but every piece of every page is embeddable and shareable – so you now have millions of widgets ........ Smart Context automatically inserts hyperlinks into topical keywords ....... increase your URLs exponentially, which have huge downstream impacts on SEO and, of course, organic traffic acquisition. ...... let’s you curate the world around your content – do what you do best and outsource the rest.
The New Architecture of News news consumption is, if anything, increasing – it remains one of the top three activities on the web ...... news organizations are just now turning from self-preservation to re-invention ...... all about offering superior navigation to the content ...... do what you do best and link to the rest. ........ More than ever, publishers need something unique - in voice, brand, content - around which to build. ...... even more need for differentiation. ...... unique, differentiated content & products can see increasing returns. ....... intelligent, malleable technology platform for organizing news from thousands of content-creators ...... News will do more than survive. It will flourish.
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MediaTalk; A Journal for Women Pregnant Later in Life - New York Times
Plum, the first pregnancy magazine aimed at women over 35 .....
produced by Groundbreak Publishing, is described as a joint effort
with the American College of Obstetrics and Gynecologists. ........
Rebekah Meola, Groundbreak's principal ..... The 200-page glossy, to
appear annually ...... 400,000 readers who are typically well-educated
and affluent.
http://www.plummagazine.com/content/story_65.php award-winning
title's creative team. ..... Plum magazine, the award-winning
publication for pregnant women 35 and older .... world-renowned
publication designers ...... "We immediately recognized in Plum the
spirit of a great magazine," says Milton Glaser. ...... Plum's
commitment to continued excellence in both editorial and design. In
just its second year, the magazine is building on the successes of its
landmark debut by aligning itself not only with the leading
practitioners in the fields of obstetrics and gynecology, but with the
best the design industry has to offer. ....... wide range of
editorial subjects, including health, fashion, child care, personal
memoir, celebrity and personality profiles ......... text,
photography, illustration, and exclusive graphic elements .......
educated, sophisticated, established women facing motherhood at a
critical phase of their lives. .........
www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/25364.php New York-based publisher
Rebekah Meola ...... scheduled to be published only once per year and
distributed exclusively through doctors' offices, is "a cross between
a woman's beauty and lifestyle magazine and a health/pregnancy manual
...... "one of the country's fastest growing demographics" -- older
pregnant women. ....... between 1990 and 2002, the birth rate among
women ages 35 to 39 increased 30%, while the birth rate among women
ages 40 to 44 increased 51%
www.telegraphindia.com/1040905/asp/look/story_3715336.asp women who
do not know what to expect while expecting .... Plum, the first
pregnancy magazine aimed at women over 35 ...... Rebekah Meola,
Groundbreak's principal, said older, expectant mothers shared many of
the same concerns as younger ones, but often had greater anxiety about
medical complications, infertility and return to work.
www.spoke.com/info/c5x1RHN/GroundBreakPublishingInc
http://www.newsweek.com/id/150312 Many of these women put kids on
hold as they climbed career ladders. Translation: they're smart,
they've got money to spare and they want the absolute best for their
babies. As a result, advertiser interest in the magazine--which will
be distributed free to patients by the American College of
Obstetricians and Gynecologists--has been "exceptional," says Plum
publisher Rebekah Meola, with heavy hitters like Volvo,
Hewlett-Packard and Johnson & Johnson signed on.





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